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	<description>surviving the recession (during our aesthetic bankruptcy)</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Iggy In The 90&#8217;s &#124; Homeboy by EV Grieve</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/11/iggy-in-the-90s-homeboy/#comment-1973</link>
		<dc:creator>EV Grieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh-oh...Their is a Babybird NONbeliever among us....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh-oh&#8230;Their is a Babybird NONbeliever among us&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Iggy In The 90&#8217;s &#124; Homeboy by hunter11</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/11/iggy-in-the-90s-homeboy/#comment-1959</link>
		<dc:creator>hunter11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes indeed sir alex.  see:http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/07/babybird/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes indeed sir alex.  see:http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/07/babybird/</p>
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		<title>Comment on Iggy In The 90&#8217;s &#124; Homeboy by Alex in NYC</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/11/iggy-in-the-90s-homeboy/#comment-1958</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?? Babybird?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Motobecane &#038; BikesDirect.com, avoid. by vanforce</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/05/motobecane-bikesdirectcom-avoid/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>vanforce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orange021: I think you must be an exception. Customers do not seem to have a real loyalty to any dealer; but more to their own wallet.  And no customers I see are very interested in the ‘soul’ of a bicycle.

Trek, Motobecane, Specialized, Raleigh, Fuji, Felt, GT, and most other companies have shown customers that what matters is best spec for the price by moving almost all models to the exact same factories in Asia. 

My observation is that bike buyers have slowly been moving to better deals by shopping harder over the last 3 years. BUT in the last two months, that trend has really accelerated.
 
Shoppers are doing their homework and doing lots of research. The days of guys flipping out a credit card for a $1000 to $2000 bike without checking around seem over.

I think posts like this one must really help bikesdirect and performance; as it makes it clear that in most cases; your sub $2000 bike probably came from Ideal, Merida, or Giant {no matter what decal is on the bike}.

 It seems knowledge of where and how bikes are produced will help cyclists.  So I am for buyers learning all they can. I think bikeforums.net, mtbr.com, and roadbikereview.com as spots where anyone can find all the need to know about bikes, brands, and sellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orange021: I think you must be an exception. Customers do not seem to have a real loyalty to any dealer; but more to their own wallet.  And no customers I see are very interested in the ‘soul’ of a bicycle.</p>
<p>Trek, Motobecane, Specialized, Raleigh, Fuji, Felt, GT, and most other companies have shown customers that what matters is best spec for the price by moving almost all models to the exact same factories in Asia. </p>
<p>My observation is that bike buyers have slowly been moving to better deals by shopping harder over the last 3 years. BUT in the last two months, that trend has really accelerated.</p>
<p>Shoppers are doing their homework and doing lots of research. The days of guys flipping out a credit card for a $1000 to $2000 bike without checking around seem over.</p>
<p>I think posts like this one must really help bikesdirect and performance; as it makes it clear that in most cases; your sub $2000 bike probably came from Ideal, Merida, or Giant {no matter what decal is on the bike}.</p>
<p> It seems knowledge of where and how bikes are produced will help cyclists.  So I am for buyers learning all they can. I think bikeforums.net, mtbr.com, and roadbikereview.com as spots where anyone can find all the need to know about bikes, brands, and sellers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Motobecane &#038; BikesDirect.com, avoid. by hunter11</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/05/motobecane-bikesdirectcom-avoid/#comment-1938</link>
		<dc:creator>hunter11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers orange021.  Welcome!
 When I posted this story, I never imagined that I would be reading comments on it into November.
But, apparently I wasn't crazy to think there was something wrong with my experience with this retailer and the copious amounts of sniping I have received has actually been quite entertaining.
Please come back anytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers orange021.  Welcome!<br />
 When I posted this story, I never imagined that I would be reading comments on it into November.<br />
But, apparently I wasn&#8217;t crazy to think there was something wrong with my experience with this retailer and the copious amounts of sniping I have received has actually been quite entertaining.<br />
Please come back anytime.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Motobecane &#038; BikesDirect.com, avoid. by orange021</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/05/motobecane-bikesdirectcom-avoid/#comment-1937</link>
		<dc:creator>orange021</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read all 139 posts.  I'm not sure why.  It's funny seeing the owners of bikesdirect.com post as "DC" or "DS" etc.  Who else would be so passionate about brandless, soulless product?  Let's face it - if you have "a guy" - a shop that you love and have worked with for decades, then all this online crap is just crap.  I have broken frames before, but none of any value.  If I had spent serious money on a racing frame I would expect a relationship with the manufacturer.  Cannondale has had my money in the past, and I have no qualms with their quality.  But ******* Cyclery is my dealer - if I had a problem, I would see them first.  That is the power of a local brick/mortar, mom/pop real relationship.

Thank you Hunter for getting a good dialogue going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read all 139 posts.  I&#8217;m not sure why.  It&#8217;s funny seeing the owners of bikesdirect.com post as &#8220;DC&#8221; or &#8220;DS&#8221; etc.  Who else would be so passionate about brandless, soulless product?  Let&#8217;s face it - if you have &#8220;a guy&#8221; - a shop that you love and have worked with for decades, then all this online crap is just crap.  I have broken frames before, but none of any value.  If I had spent serious money on a racing frame I would expect a relationship with the manufacturer.  Cannondale has had my money in the past, and I have no qualms with their quality.  But ******* Cyclery is my dealer - if I had a problem, I would see them first.  That is the power of a local brick/mortar, mom/pop real relationship.</p>
<p>Thank you Hunter for getting a good dialogue going.</p>
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		<title>Comment on HBO Gold &#124; Dirty Driving: Thundercars of Indiana by hunter11</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/11/hbo-gold-dirty-driving-thundercars-of-indiana/#comment-1928</link>
		<dc:creator>hunter11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Indianaguy and thank you for commenting. I hope that you did not take any offense to the post as my intent was never disrespectful. To the contrary, I honestly felt the people portrayed a quiet nobility and courage that transcended the mullets and missing teeth.
I lived in Nashville for seven years within a mile of Nashville Speedway. Many of the guys that raced there lived in my neighborhood, which was by no means affluent and many of them struggled. Even though we were only miles away from Vanderbilt University and some of the richest people in the Mid-South, my neighbor’s struggles were still very real.
I have never been to Anderson, so I cannot and will not attempt to contradict anything you have said as you know more about your town than I do.
But having traveled across this country for the better part of the last eight years, I did not find this story unique. This country’s economic framework is dependent on and was built on a necessity for good paying manufacturing jobs. As those jobs dwindle, without any to replace them, so do the fortunes of all the businesses that relied on them, their employees and our national and state tax base.
If you want to see this happening in a much bigger environment, follow what is happening in Detroit and it’s surrounding suburbs. This film, on a larger level, struck me as a warning call, albeit a late one. Although others may have perceived the film maker’s intent otherwise, I was truly moved by it.
I wish you and Anderson all the best. Ultimately, we will all need some luck in the coming years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Indianaguy and thank you for commenting. I hope that you did not take any offense to the post as my intent was never disrespectful. To the contrary, I honestly felt the people portrayed a quiet nobility and courage that transcended the mullets and missing teeth.<br />
I lived in Nashville for seven years within a mile of Nashville Speedway. Many of the guys that raced there lived in my neighborhood, which was by no means affluent and many of them struggled. Even though we were only miles away from Vanderbilt University and some of the richest people in the Mid-South, my neighbor’s struggles were still very real.<br />
I have never been to Anderson, so I cannot and will not attempt to contradict anything you have said as you know more about your town than I do.<br />
But having traveled across this country for the better part of the last eight years, I did not find this story unique. This country’s economic framework is dependent on and was built on a necessity for good paying manufacturing jobs. As those jobs dwindle, without any to replace them, so do the fortunes of all the businesses that relied on them, their employees and our national and state tax base.<br />
If you want to see this happening in a much bigger environment, follow what is happening in Detroit and it’s surrounding suburbs. This film, on a larger level, struck me as a warning call, albeit a late one. Although others may have perceived the film maker’s intent otherwise, I was truly moved by it.<br />
I wish you and Anderson all the best. Ultimately, we will all need some luck in the coming years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on HBO Gold &#124; Dirty Driving: Thundercars of Indiana by Indianaguy</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/11/hbo-gold-dirty-driving-thundercars-of-indiana/#comment-1926</link>
		<dc:creator>Indianaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is simply tragic that a high profile cable channel can come into a community, zero-in on a specific sector of the population and cast a national perception that is neither accurate nor complete. Sure Anderson has its challenges; but, so does any small town in America.

What viewers don’t know is that Nestle’ recently opened a factory in Anderson, the Flagship Enterprise Center is a business incubator in Anderson with a full house of entrepreneurial tenants, and the city has a renowned university within its borders. The list goes on and on.

You won’t hear about these stories because these stories don’t capture ratings. People with mullets and missing teeth capture ratings. I guarantee that I could grab a camera, pick any town, visit a few bars or local hang-outs, and come real close to editing something that matches this piece of garbage. The only difference is that I don’t own a national cable channel—but wait, there’s always YouTube.

—an Anderson resident (and proud)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is simply tragic that a high profile cable channel can come into a community, zero-in on a specific sector of the population and cast a national perception that is neither accurate nor complete. Sure Anderson has its challenges; but, so does any small town in America.</p>
<p>What viewers don’t know is that Nestle’ recently opened a factory in Anderson, the Flagship Enterprise Center is a business incubator in Anderson with a full house of entrepreneurial tenants, and the city has a renowned university within its borders. The list goes on and on.</p>
<p>You won’t hear about these stories because these stories don’t capture ratings. People with mullets and missing teeth capture ratings. I guarantee that I could grab a camera, pick any town, visit a few bars or local hang-outs, and come real close to editing something that matches this piece of garbage. The only difference is that I don’t own a national cable channel—but wait, there’s always YouTube.</p>
<p>—an Anderson resident (and proud)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Iggy in the 80&#8217;s by EV Grieve</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/11/iggy-in-the-80s/#comment-1924</link>
		<dc:creator>EV Grieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm digging the Iggy posts, HG.</description>
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		<title>Comment on King Iggy &#124; My Current Salvation by EV Grieve</title>
		<link>http://huntergatherernyc.com/2008/11/king-iggy-my-current-salvation/#comment-1902</link>
		<dc:creator>EV Grieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, HG. Don't care how recent this is -- I love it.

And you know we'll be going wild in about five years over this one...about all that has changed since this was filmed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, HG. Don&#8217;t care how recent this is &#8212; I love it.</p>
<p>And you know we&#8217;ll be going wild in about five years over this one&#8230;about all that has changed since this was filmed!</p>
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